James,
On 28/02/13 11:09 AM, James Johnson wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>> On 28/02/13 11:05, Timothy Bailey wrote:
>> David,
>>>> I assume the most important thing is that the copyright and "for
>> non-profit use only"
>> warning is included in the Debian repackaging. If those are
>> preserved, I'm happy.
> If you refer to the original email, that's exactly what they were
> hoping to avoid. GLAM2 has a more permissive license than the MEME
> Suite. The reason they want to keep the 2 packages is so that people
> can use GLAM2 under the more permissive license... They were hoping to
> back-port any improvements to GLAM2 while keeping its original license.
Sorry about the confusion I may have called. I am completely happy to
have them
back-port changes from MEME Suite Glam2 to stand-alone Glam2. The Glam2
license can remain as before.
My earlier comment referred to the Debian port of MEME Suite, not
stand-alone Glam2.
Cheers,
Tim
>> ~James
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tim
>> On 28/02/13 2:07 AM, Gibbons, David wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>> My only concern would be that we not create any conflict with the
>>> arrangement we have between the University of Washington, UC San
>>> Diego and the University of Queensland regarding The Meme Suite.
>>> The technical compatibilities of the various versions are outside of
>>> my scope, but as long as we are not deviating from the agreement
>>> between our institutions, I have no issues with the request.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for copying me.
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> David G. Gibbons, PE, MBA
>>>>>> Assistant Director
>>>>>> Physical Sciences Licensing
>>>>>> Technology Transfer Office, UC San Diego
>>>>>> 9500 Gilman Drive, MC 0910
>>>>>> La Jolla, CA 92093-0910
>>>>>> (858)534-0175
>>>>>>dgibbons at ucsd.edu>>>>>>http://invent.ucsd.edu>>>>>> *From:*Timothy Bailey [mailto:t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:13 AM
>>> *To:* James Johnson
>>> *Cc:* Gibbons, David; Martin Frith; MEME Support; Debian Med
>>> Packaging Team
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Re: [j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au: Re: Installation
>>> of binary tools inside MEME]
>>>>>> James,
>>>>>> On 18/02/13 11:51 AM, James Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim, Dave,
>>>>>> The Debian Med Packaging Team want to know if they can backport
>>> GLAM2 improvements (presuming there are any?) in the MEME Suite
>>> to the more permissively licensed GLAM2 repository?
>>>>>> I have no problems with this as long as they do the work.
>>>>>> However, that will mean that the Debian version of Glam2 differs
>>> from the "standalone" version
>>> Martin created. It will match the "MEME Suite" version, though.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>> ~James
>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> *Subject: *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: [j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au <mailto:j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au>: Re:
>>> Installation of binary tools inside MEME]
>>>>>> *Date: *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:04:58 +0000
>>>>>> *From: *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Booth <avarus at fastmail.fm> <mailto:avarus at fastmail.fm>
>>>>>> *To: *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas Tille <andreas at fam-tille.de> <mailto:andreas at fam-tille.de>
>>>>>> *CC: *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian Med Packaging Team
>>> <debian-med-packaging at lists.alioth.debian.org>
>>> <mailto:debian-med-packaging at lists.alioth.debian.org>, James Johnson
>>> <j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au> <mailto:j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 06:08:08PM +0000, Tim Booth wrote:
>>> > > Yes, I did start looking at Meme but quickly realised it was a lot more
>>> > > work than I thought to do a proper job on it. I think all I wanted to
>>> > > do in the first instance was to get an updated glam2 binary package
>>> > > based upon the improved glam2 source within the meme code. I guess this
>>> > > is now the definitive glam2 as the original standalone source hasn't
>>> > > been updated since 2008.
>>> >
>>> > We might try to do some comparison. Charles previously mentioned that
>>> > we should keep the glam2 package from Debian which is free (PD) and meme
>>> > currently has a non-free license (according to DFSG). So if glam2 inside
>>> > meme is basically unchanged it might be reasonable to ignore the code
>>> > inside meme (or asking upstream for permission to backport the changes.)
>>>>>> A quick "diff" across the original glam2 vs. the meme glam2 suggests
>>> that several new options have been added for meme - see
>>> src/glam2_args.c.
>>>>>> I would imagine that scripts within meme rely on these options. In
>>> fact, a quick grepping shows that scripts/glam2_webservice.pl.in calls
>>> "glam2 -M" which is an option added for meme. I've not looked for other
>>> examples.
>>>>>> I hope that upstream can at least be persuaded to put their changes to
>>> glam2 under a free license like the original glam2. They may not be
>>> legally bound to do so but it would be highly disingenuous of them to
>>> refuse.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> TIM
>>>>>>>>> --
>>> If you can't find an apposite quote for your sig, just make one up.
>>> - Anon
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Timothy L. Bailey
>>>>>>>>>>>>t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au <mailto:t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au>
>>>>>> Institute for Molecular Bioscience
>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICE: (61)-(7)-3346-2614
>>>>>> The University of Queensland
>>>>>>>>>>>> FAX: (61)-(7)-3346-2101
>>>>>> Brisbane, Qld. 4072 Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>http://research.imb.uq.edu.au/~tbailey>>> <http://research.imb.uq.edu.au/%7Etbailey>
>>>>>>> --
>> Timothy L. Bailey
>>t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au <mailto:t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au>
>> Institute for Molecular Bioscience
>> VOICE: (61)-(7)-3346-2614
>> The University of Queensland
>> FAX: (61)-(7)-3346-2101
>> Brisbane, Qld. 4072 Australia
>>http://research.imb.uq.edu.au/~tbailey>>>
--
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t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au <mailto:t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au>
Institute for Molecular Bioscience
VOICE: (61)-(7)-3346-2614
The University of Queensland
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Brisbane, Qld. 4072 Australia
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