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Time on the Cross is at once a jarring attack on the methods and conclusions of traditional scholarship and a lucid, highly readable analysis of the special American problem - black slavery.

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ W. W. Norton & Company
  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ August 17, 1995
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  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Print length ‏ : ‎ 336 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 0393312186
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0393312188
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  • Liberty Blacksmith
    5.0 out of 5 stars Must read for History Buffs
    Reviewed in the United States on March 4, 2024
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    Very well written (non-technical) synopsis of their technical papers dealing with the economics of chattel slavery pre War Between the States. Contrary to the prevailing opinion, before this came out in 1976, slavery as economically viable and thriving and not likely to die out.
    Interesting ramifications for the factory system and division of labor for the industrial age as well. Must read this book !
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  • philip
    5.0 out of 5 stars The Truth Be Told Hard Nails Research
    Reviewed in the United States on August 19, 2017
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    This is an outstanding work on slavery in the U.S. The author takes the reader across time from Colonial America to the Reconstruction tragedy years. The work is the idea ideal for the serious observer of history being a product of years of outstanding research. It is actually written as a two volume set. The first takes a serious non-emotion look at Slavery in America with outstanding references. The observations of the author are based on formulamatic surveys found in vol. 2. The reader can rest assured that volume 1 is a stand alone book after I read vol. 2 which explains in detail the equations used and buttresses the information of vol. 1. This is a must for the serious researcher. I highly recommend both volumes.
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  • steven B. horan
    4.0 out of 5 stars very informative
    Reviewed in the United States on August 7, 2013
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    Good book a little repetitive on some topics, gives a new perspective on that era in time and the economic perspective.
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  • Westernflyer
    5.0 out of 5 stars Nobel Peace Prize Winner in Economics Professor Fogel came to the amazing conclusion that on the whole
    Reviewed in the United States on June 2, 2016
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    In the course of discovery in old US Government documents, Nobel Peace Prize Winner in Economics Professor Fogel came to the amazing conclusion that on the whole, Southern Slaves fared better overall physically in diet and housing than many of the so called, "Free Working Class People" in the Industrialized Northern States. Slaves were treated much better than we are taught today because in a slave economy their worth is a substantial monetary investment. The facts in the archived US Government documents; production records, bills of lading for food, etc. are irrefutable. In my opinion, the author's conclusions run contrary to the politicaly correct speech of today making for a challenging and thought provoking book.
    The Southern States use of slave labor made them a, "economic juggernaut" poised to overtake the Industrialized Northern States economically prior to the Civil War. Of course, we can not put any price on a person's freedom and the author does not suggest otherwise.
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  • Joan C Wrenn
    5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing analysis, overall impact needs wider thought
    Reviewed in the United States on August 27, 2015
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    Amazing analysis. Hard to figure out how to take it - of course slavery was terrible, but the economic implication is that it wasn't so bad (economically), especially compared with the time since Emancipation. Then try to weigh the economic impact vs the social, family, educational impact, and it puts the economic impact at the bottom of the list, convincing me that we still have a Very Long way to go to repair all the damage to millions of families.
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  • LOU TOPASH
    5.0 out of 5 stars Most accurate
    Reviewed in the United States on November 17, 2019
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    I started to read this book that was presented in "Book of the Month" in Readers Digest (1974). I read a little & stopped. I wanted to read it from the book so I ordered the book. I could NOT put it down.
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  • Sealed
    5.0 out of 5 stars Great book
    Reviewed in the United States on October 18, 2022
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  • Stephen VO
    3.0 out of 5 stars We all rate like we think...
    Reviewed in the United States on February 9, 2006
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    First, I will be forthright and say that I am an unreconstructed Southerner. If that makes my review prejudiced, so be it. But I would be willing to wager that all those reviewers who critisize this work and give it only 1 or 2 starrs, while glowingly giving indirect 5 star recommendations to Gutman's works, are just as prejudiced the other way. The fact of the matter is that 'we' rate like we think and no volume of material is going to sway our preconceived or 'brainwashed' notions.

    I have read most of the Slave Narratives and I've make a lifelong (I'm 56) study of like in the Antebellum and post-war South, plus I can still remember life in rural Louisiana in the 50's as a small boy and have heard many stories from grandparents born before 1900. I have also read many many works (no longer in print) written right before and right after the war.

    First, anyone who believes the Civil War was fought over slavery is just plain foolish and definitely has an agenda and will NEVER learn anything. With that said, and based on all I have read, I believe that the real truth lies somewhere almost in the middle of what 'Time on the Cross' proposes and what Gutman's contradictory writing show.

    I believe that before ANY student or academician of this subject can even begin to form an opinion, they need to read the Slave Narratives to form a foundation. Afterall, these were real intereviews, real opinions, from the real people who lived through it. How can any modern author, through the tinted glasses of time, even hope to come close to evaluating this subject without reading these essential compilations? Whether they 'fit' into today's politically correct notions or not, they cannot be ignored (even though they have been suppressed for many years as if they never existed).

    Slavery was a terrible thing that happened all over the world, and, I believe that had it not been for the assassination of Lincoln (who believed all blacks should be returned to Africa!), that race relations in this country would have been much different than they were up until 1970. I believe that race relations were hurt terribly by the reconstruction of the South.

    Do I believe the United States would be better off today if it was an all-white society? Yes, I do. I believe this not because I don't believe two races can't co-exist (although this is naturally difficult), but because we have become so sensitive today and politically correct that not even Bill Cosby and address the real problems of the black community without being attacked, so how can I expect any better.

    I heard tonight on TV that it is 'unknown' why the illigitimacy rate is so high among black teenagers. Well, duh! Simply put, what has happened in this country is that whites and blacks were mixed in the 60's and 70's in order to provide more opportunity to blacks and to raise their standards. Well, this would have been difficult enough to do in the first place since it defies the laws of nature and physics. But, when political correctness and 'race sensitivity' is added to the equation, there was only one outcome.

    That outcome is a lowering of standards for blacks and whites alike - not only academically, but socially and morally as well. I know for a fact that in the first half of the 20th century, the moral level of blacks was much higher than it is overall today. Why?

    I believe that an environment was created (probably on purpose) where instead of the lower elements (blacks) being elevated to higher levels of morality and academics and socio-economics by whites, that the reverse happened. The standards were pulled down and now today (as evidenced by our high schools) the overall levels of both blacks and whites are lower than either were before integration was even started. It will continue to go lower, I guess, until the US is at the bottom of the list in educational level compared to other countries. Will we ever learn? If we care about all our children, both black and white, are we to sacrifice them on the altar of 'race relations'? Are they to become 3rd rate when compared to countries like China, India, Russia, Japan, and most of Europe on educational levels? Probably so. But, the government and the race panderers will have what they want.
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  • giuliano
    4.0 out of 5 stars time on the cross
    Reviewed in Italy on April 27, 2013
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    libro base per capire la visione più recente dell'economia schivista negli stati del sud. vincitore dell'unico premio nobel assegnato alla storia economica
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  • S. Smith
    3.0 out of 5 stars A too favourable view of Slavery
    Reviewed in the United Kingdom on August 20, 2012
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    This book is about a highly sensitive and controversial subject. Its main aim is to shift the debate on slavery away from an anecdotal approach based on impressions to one based on their "cliometric" or statistical methodology, a method which discounts whatever is not measurable. Unfortunately its central aim, which should make it a critical contribution to the study of North American slavery, is overshadowed by the authors' apparent desire to provoke controversy. Its other failing is its authors' unwillingness to engage fully with the brutal nature of slavery, claiming that it is not relevant to their economic study.

    Fogel and Engerman attack the historians they regard as economically illiterate, particularly Ulrich Phillips. Phillips believed that slavery was an inefficient user of incompetent labour, financially unprofitable and doomed to failure in competition with free labour, and that it inhibited the economic development of the southern USA. He also argued that the aim of plantation society was less to make money than to control and "civilise" its black slaves and that its leaders were benign patriarchal landlords, not crude exploiters.

    Fogel and Engerman disagree on every point. They challenge Phillips' stereotype of slaves as incompetent or inefficient. They also argue that southern farms using slave gang labour were more efficient than northern free farms, and that gang labour was efficient and well managed, often by black managers. Their economic evidence for this efficiency seems credible. However, they also show that gang labour involved forcing slaves to work in conditions in which free labour, black or white, would refuse to work except for wages that would make the plantations uneconomic. The apparent efficiency of gang labour was therefore based on compulsion not purely on economic factors.

    Secondly, they argue that the material conditions of slaves were not inferior to those of free farmers, including southern poor-whites. Here, their estimates are based on limited data (often planters' rough estimates) of food produced on southern plantations, or on national, mainly northern, averages frequently from post civil war years. This not only makes their conclusions on living standards dubious, but suggests a less than impartial acceptance of unsuitable data to prove their assumptions.

    Fogel and Engerman seem largely insensitive to the human consequences of slavery. They excuse this, claiming that their study is about the economics of slavery in comparison with free farming. This looks like an evasion: Phillips, who they rightly criticise, tried to describe the whole phenomenon of pre-Civil War slavery and these authors' attack on him and others is not limited to economics. For example, their attacks on 19th century accounts of bad plantation conditions, not only from convinced abolitionists, are close to an apology for the plantation system.

    Overall, the authors prove some, but not all, of the points they make on the efficiency of slavery, but only in in purely economic terms. However, their optimistic views on the material conditions of slaves and their minimising of its brutality and oppression detract from the value of their account. If you read this book, read it critically, and be aware of its limitations.
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  • D. Halliday
    2.0 out of 5 stars Severely flawed
    Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 13, 2015
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    I used this book for an investigation of cliometrics since it's one of the most famous examples of a cliometric study.

    It uses cliometric (economic) techniques to investigate the institution of slavery and come up with some revolutionary conclusions.

    However, the reader should be aware this work is now regarded as almost completely discredited for many reasons, including sloppy methodology, incorrect source data, misrepresentations, flawed assumptions and outright non sequiturs. In my opinion, it's one of those history works like AJP Taylor's Origins which sets out to be deliberately provocative, cherry picks whatever supports a (politically motivated) preconceived conclusion and ignores contrary evidence to come up with an unconvincing "revisionist" conclusion. Like AJP Taylor's Origins, it received wide acclamation from the general public but severe criticism, even outrage, from experts some of which was published in a detailed rebuttal.

    If you want to read it, best would be to read it in conjunction with Gutman's critique:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slavery-Numbers-Game-Critique-Blacks/dp/0252071514/ref=sr_1_5
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