Lingthusiasm Episode 114: Begonia, average coral, and sea pink - Defining colour terms with Kory Stamper
begonia: a deep pink that is bluer, lighter, and stronger than average coral (see ‘coral’ 3B), bluer than fiesta, and bluer and stronger than sweet William, called also ‘gaiety’.
In this episode, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne get enthusiastic about trying to pin down definitions for colour terms with Kory Stamper, author of the new book TRUE COLOR! Kory is a lexicographer and was Associate Editor at Merriam-Webster for almost two decades. Her first book was Word By Word: The Secret Life of Dictionaries, which we also loved, and now Kory is back with the fruits of her dive into the mid-20th century quest to standardize colour terms, taking us from dying fabrics to painting cars to assessing grades of maple syrup.
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Here are the links mentioned in the episode:
- ‘True Color: The Strange and Spectacular Quest to Define Color–from Azure to Zinc Pink’ by Kory Stamper
- Kory Stamper’s website
- Kory Stamper on Bluesky
- Lingthusiasm episode ’People who make dictionaries: Review of WORD BY WORD by Kory Stamper’
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Lingthusiasm is created by Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne. Our senior producer is Claire Gawne, our production editor is Sarah Dopierala, our production assistant is Martha Tsutsui Billins, our editorial assistant is Jon Kruk, and our technical editor is Leah Velleman. Our music is ‘Ancient City’ by The Triangles.
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I have been waiting for this book from Kory Stamper since I was a fan of her blog in 2014 and it does not disappoint.
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Lingthusiasm - 114: Begonia, average coral, and sea pink - Defining colour terms with Kory Stamper